Jan. 19, 2009 dorothy and I decided we would go sight seeing, I wanted to go up to Salt River Canyon and then work our way back over the Apache Trail and down through Toretta Flats back to Gold Canyon where we are staying. We got up through Globe and headed out 60, Salt River Canyon is a min. version of the Grand Canyon. We got to the bridge that crosses it and stopped to buy some jewely from the local indians, I asked this Indian if there was any off road trails we could take and he said yea right across the bridge a trail leads to the left. We decided to try it, was very pretty there as we started down this old dirt road. ( our GPS called it a primitive road, it was...). It was 1 lane wide at the most and followed the Salt River, we would go up high and wind around the mountians, the cliffs would be straight upand the side of the road would be straight down ( way down ). We wound around for about 6 or 7 miles and came to a wash that was leading off the mountian, of course there was water in the wash, I asked Dorothy if she though we should go through it and she said it was up to me. (wrong answer) So as we drove into the water the tires droped down in the loose gravel, the water was about 12in deep and the gravel at least that deep, we got through. The rocks falling off of the cliffs from above was certainly a thing to worry about, you had to drive around then and a couple of times Dorothy wanted to get out and try and move some so we could get by, I told her we had room even though there was a cliff you could look out and see straight down, after around another 8 miles we turned on our GPS garmin and it said we were 17 miles into a primitive road and it showed that it came out the other side on rt 88 wrer we wanted to get to. We came to another canyon wash, the bank was really deep sand but it looked like solid rock bottom through the water, the water was up to and over our running boards, we started up the mountain again and came to a T in the road with signs pointing various places ( canyon creek, medicine ranch, and others with signs saying 10 mi 17 mi ect ) at this time we were lost, sort of, we didn;t know whether to go on or go back, we had no maps other then GPS and it didn't tell us about the washes. We decoded to head for Canyon Creek 8 more miles deeper in, was the direction to get to rt 88. Have you ever had your brakes hot and smelly only going 5 mph, we did, going back down the mountain to Canyon Creek, we got there and this wash was at least Hummer deep, not Suburan deep. It was really hard to turn around at the bottom of the mountain, all deep sand and big rocks, we made it. Our cell phone of course wouldn't work until we got back on top of the mountain so that is were we headed. At this time we had spent around 3 hrs. on this trail and it was gettig late. it get dark around 5pm and black dark at 5:30 it was 4:15. We back to the T ine road and I had some phone service 1 dot. I called the highway patrol to asked if we could get out going toward medicine ranch, he said he didn't know anything about primitive roads that I would have to call the sheriff's dept. I tried the number and got a fax, so we decided we should go back and try to get through the washes that we shouldn't have crossed in the first place. w ehad to go faster to get out before dark, there was new rocks on the road that weren't there the first time to dodge. we made it threw the 1st wash and headed for the next, at this time poor Dorothy had all the excitement ( as she said Scared Shitless ) as she could handle. We got to the next wash and made it through with only some bend parts on the trailer hitich. All in all we had a great time although Dorothy might not agree. I will try and add some pics.

see ya soon Wayne & Dorothy